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Old 03-17-2019, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by airborn900
So is there a v3 or v4 then?
I was under the impression there was only 2 different versions. One had sheeted wings one didn’t.

Im obviously missing a piece of the puzzle.


There was the Falcon v1 and v2, Turbinator v1 and v2 - essentially the same. Turbinator v3 and v4 which had some carbon fiber loosely attached and heavy glass on the booms. ALL need attention to landing gear mounts, hardening the balsa blocks supporting the boom bolts, engine mount, etc. Do not get caught up in what version. They all need a fair amount of tweaking.
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Old 03-17-2019, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by airborn900
How much better out of the box is a V2 vs V1
Not much between them, sheeted wings, two attach screws per wing, That's about it from memory.

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Old 03-17-2019, 03:59 PM
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Well in the Uk none of them had fully sheeted wings, and none where made to take a turbine, until they where re-named Kestrel.
Old 03-17-2019, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BaldEagel
Well in the Uk none of them had fully sheeted wings, and none where made to take a turbine, until they where re-named Kestrel.
Are they still available in the UK? I wouldn't mind one to keep unassembled on the shelf.

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Old 03-19-2019, 10:09 AM
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Help!
Anyone have a nose gear (for Falcon 120) available? I don't need a whole gear set.
Would like t purchase.
Thanks!
Old 03-19-2019, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rjbob
Help!
Anyone have a nose gear (for Falcon 120) available? I don't need a whole gear set.
Would like t purchase.
Thanks!
I just use these. Haven't failed in normal service yet. Broke one in crash landing though.

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/all-meta...s-10-12kg.html

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Old 03-20-2019, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jetflyr
There was the Falcon v1 and v2, Turbinator v1 and v2 - essentially the same. Turbinator v3 and v4 which had some carbon fiber loosely attached and heavy glass on the booms. ALL need attention to landing gear mounts, hardening the balsa blocks supporting the boom bolts, engine mount, etc. Do not get caught up in what version. They all need a fair amount of tweaking.
Greg
What are the must do mods before you try to fly one of these?

Landing gear blocks
boom mounts

what else?
Old 03-20-2019, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by airborn900




What are the must do mods before you try to fly one of these?

Landing gear blocks
boom mounts

what else?
I have previously posted pictures of the mods I have done to my Falcons.
UC mods on page 184 of this thread.
I'll see if I can find some more.

My usual mods;
UC blocks and cutouts for trailing ARM U/C legs.
1/2" aluminium angle under rear deck each side extending forward to rear fuse former.
Dremel rear fuse to locate front case of turbine at rear deck step. (CoG considerations)
Remove covering on wings,, add real glue where needed and sheet.
Remove rear fuse formers, reshape to fit conformal tank and glue in with real glue.
Remove front fuse formers and replace with new one to allow nose retract to fit deeper into fuselage. (nose gear protruded in mine)
(reference to "real glue" is a dig at the factory over the "flour and water" crappy stuff they use)

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Old 03-20-2019, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SeaHawk-RCU
I have previously posted pictures of the mods I have done to my Falcons.
UC mods on page 184 of this thread.
I'll see if I can find some more.

My usual mods;
UC blocks and cutouts for trailing ARM U/C legs.
1/2" aluminium angle under rear deck each side extending forward to rear fuse former.
Dremel rear fuse to locate front case of turbine at rear deck step. (CoG considerations)
Remove covering on wings,, add real glue where needed and sheet.
Remove rear fuse formers, reshape to fit conformal tank and glue in with real glue.
Remove front fuse formers and replace with new one to allow nose retract to fit deeper into fuselage. (nose gear protruded in mine)
(reference to "real glue" is a dig at the factory over the "flour and water" crappy stuff they use)

Col
thank you. I’ll head to page 184 and check it out
Old 06-05-2019, 09:34 PM
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is there a preferred place to buy these Falcons online?
I'm looking all over with no success

Thanks!
Old 06-05-2019, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by srt10
is there a preferred place to buy these Falcons online?
I'm looking all over with no success

Thanks!
I have been looking for months but I cannot find any either. They were also sold under the names Navycat and Tornado if I remember correctly.

Col
Old 06-06-2019, 03:24 AM
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classifieds
Old 06-06-2019, 04:04 AM
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I’m not sure why but they are no longer in production.
I have one listed for sale in the classifieds.
Old 06-06-2019, 04:18 AM
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I have a super falcon 120 new in box. I have the dreamworks/prolink struts for it as well as the dreamworks 5 degree engine mount. I also have a conformal fuel tank to go with it. All items are new/unused. If anyone is interested let me know, I’ll take pictures.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:15 AM
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I am just about to do my second one of these. By first one really liked to bounce. That killed it in end.its not my first jet. Anyone else have this? Is it fixable?
Old 06-12-2019, 12:44 PM
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Make it such that when at rest on wheels , it has a slightly negative incidence concerning the wing. That should prevent the bouncy-bounce.
Old 06-12-2019, 01:21 PM
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Land slower.
Old 06-12-2019, 01:53 PM
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That too will work!
Old 06-12-2019, 02:13 PM
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Negative being nose down?

to be fair it was pretty slow.
Old 06-12-2019, 03:10 PM
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Yes, negative wing incidence = nose down. But just a degree.....
Old 06-12-2019, 06:49 PM
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More draggggg
Old 06-12-2019, 08:14 PM
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Agree land slower, a big help would be crow.
add about 1/4” of up aileron and go with about 2 1/2” of flap throw.
Old 09-11-2019, 07:16 AM
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Wow, long thread! I have a question. I have a chance to pick up a red falcon 120. It does not appear to be carbon fiber reinforced. I have no skills that would allow me to do “ mods” to the kit for turbine use. I have read several threads that say you can, in fact, fly these without the mods if you keep the power to a 60 size turbine, and don’t fly at full throttle for extended time, or when turning the jet at speed. What do you guys think? I’ve had a couple before, and they were a nice , small jet I could haul in my Durango and not have to pull my trailer....good off my local grass field...my other jets are bigger, and composite. I would appreciate any feed back...
Old 09-11-2019, 07:54 AM
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Hello

I have a boat load of new parts; P60 turbine (used) , pneumatic landing gear, turbine mounts, airframe, wheels all for the Falcon that is looking for a good home. Thank you, Jerry
p.m. me if interested

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